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Smurf, the reason he has brought up about borrowing is because the money is gone, and he wants to sell the Port of Melbourne to fund the projects.

He doesn't think that will come through.

No sell, no projects.


What he wants to do is build and sell to the private companies.

That is the only reason he has brought this up.


I understand what you are saying, Smurf, and that is a whole different topic.


As you know, I am not very happy that he has backed down on the road project.


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