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I've never expected anything different, my parents grew up through WW2 in the UK, I actually can remember my childhood in the U.K in the early 1960's, so I don't have an issue with the expectation "you get out, as much as you put in".


The only ones that will struggle, are those who don't understand the meaning behind that phrase.  Lol


You've been bagging the U.S and U.K for ages, time for us to man up, rather than expect someone else to cover our butt.

Superannuation is the next problem, the Govt wants it to fix the grid, we want it to fix our retirement, it should be interesting, when it is required to fix the economy.


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