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ok trainspotter, get your point.

to answer your question as to why futures - after my limited research it seemed to look like easier money than other markets. I intend to sticking to what I know, but the way my business runs any further cash injection wont really create any more profit for me, so wanted to diversify and futures (through the positive marketing material I had read) looked promising.

@ cartman - dont see how what I wrote would make you think I am with either of these companies. Thanks for the credit though on my intelligance. I can understand how many posts from spammers are here, I have read some of them and have seen the guys get flamed. My questions were genuine, and only asked after I used the search function.

@ doctorj - funnily enough, I was a mortgage broker for 5 years prior to what I do now. Thanks for the honest comments. I had looked at managed funds and the way the market has been in the last 8 months or so I am glad I didnt go down that track. Thought that futures had a lower risk of losing money, at least not in bulk amounts like managed funds.

The way I was looking at this venture really was like managed funds, only in futures market.

Anyway, not a single go for it from the people that replied, so looks like its not really as good as it may sound.