Retirement-Semi Retirement, (Tech/a personal study) implementation and discussion

[divs4ever]

It's not for everyone, but like you said 'it's another way of life to look at'.

Nemeth, now 56 and single, doesn’t own her own home or any property. Nor does she receive welfare payments or have any savings, a generous benefactor or a secret stash of emergency cash.​

Perfect. The government can organise and have half the people on social welfare benefits, including the homeless, to go live in country communities that require labour but can't afford to pay for it.

We can get all our small run-down towns repaired, painted and maintained by an army city long term welfare dependent and the homeless. Give them a sense of purpose and meaning to their life, while not having to worry about the day-to-day grind of money and saving for retirement.

For the first three years, Nemeth lived on a friend’s farm, where she built a small shack from discarded building materials before doing some housesitting and living off-grid for a year in a “little blue wagon” in another friend’s back yard. Then, in 2018, she moved into Brodie’s house full-time; it’s now a multigenerational home that includes Brodie’s new partner and one of her sons, Nemeth’s daughter Amy, Amy’s husband and their three small children.​

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Instead of paying rent, Nemeth cooks, cleans, manages the veggie garden and makes items such as soap, washing powder and fermented foods to save the household money and reduce its environmental footprint. And she couldn’t be happier.​

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“I love being at home and I love the challenge of meeting our needs without money – it’s like a game.”​

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It's a win-win for everyone. The tax payer, the homeless, the alternative life-style people, the town and its people, the country, my superannuation, society.

the only problem with that is more than half the people i would wish to live like that are already in Government or have a career there , it would be a hard sell to get the correct people living a realistic life-style outside of the ivory towers .

but is SHE is content then good for her

 

[qldfrog]

It isn't a bad life, I know people who live in a share house and the only money they have is welfare, it isn't for everyone but some enjoy it.
I also know others who could be on a disability pension, but prefer to go to work and struggle to make ends meet, everyone's different and one size doesn't fit all.
As long as they are happy with their choices, that's the main thing.

You will have nothing but be happy, living like a leech on the taxpayers..
And probably asking for a pension and welfare increase because of inflation.
Going as far as being a leech to her own family...to each his her own
Only the Guardian with such role models...

 

[investtrader]

living like a leech on the taxpayers..

I don't like that terminology. There are a myriad reasons why people live on welfare. Sure there are some who 'take advantage' , but it is surely a pretty miserable bloody existence. Our country is fair and the price of this is a few hangers on. We don't want someone like that orange criminal turd making decisions on welfare.
My brother in law has lived on a medical pension for a very long time and with good reason. He was a bloody hard worker when he could. At least he is not scrounging through rubbish bins for food to stay alive. Or dying of cancer and can't afford medicine.

 

[JohnDe]

living like a leech on the taxpayers..

I don't like that terminology. There are a myriad reasons why people live on welfare. Sure there are some who 'take advantage' , but it is surely a pretty miserable bloody existence. Our country is fair and the price of this is a few hangers on. We don't want someone like that orange criminal turd making decisions on welfare.
My brother in law has lived on a medical pension for a very long time and with good reason. He was a bloody hard worker when he could. At least he is not scrounging through rubbish bins for food to stay alive. Or dying of cancer and can't afford medicine.

Don’t make it bigger than what it is, or about anyone from another country.

Qldfrog is only talking about those that are leaching off of others, he is not saying that every single person on some level of welfare is a leach.

 

[qldfrog]

As long as you pay for it, i have no issue.
Just do not ask me to .

 

[tech/a]

Some don't have a choice through no real fault of their own.
But we all know masses who choose the "Give Me Everything'' path

I can't believe the Poor choices some people make very early on.
It is invariably these people who become the "Give Me Everything
Group

Hanging with Idiots
Marrying early 16-20
Having kids lots of them
Staying attached to Toxic parents.
Financing junk to impress others doing the same thing.

Short-term gain long-term F*cked.

 

[Craton]

Warning. Rant ahead.
Just my observation, thoughts and with regards specifically to the homeless and their choice of retiring to a life on the streets.
We have a couple that frequent the back of our store. I've a story or two to tell but not here.

With the vast array of support that is available, some still choose to continue sleeping on the streets. Wandering aimlessly, sponging of those of us who pay for their lifestyle/retirement choice.

Yes, I understand there's probably a myriad of factors of why the homeless chose or are forced onto that path. Not all stay on it though but those that do, I just don't get it.

I look back to a time in my teenage years when I necessitated to live out of my car, thankfully I still had a first years apprentice job but on those wages, life sure looked bleak.

Fish shop chips (20c worth) in between two slices of bread, smothered in vegemite was often b/fast and the evening meal. That was over a three month period where I saved and skimped and just didn't go out, pissing money up against the urinal wall. That saved money help me secure a room at a boarding house.

That time was also the seeds to learning a tad, nay, a sh*t ton more about "money".

So I just don't get why in this day and age, why anyone would want to live it large out on the streets, subject to all the vagrancies of our weather and not-so-likeable characters.

I really do think that we as a society, should do more in getting the homeless to contribute instead of being a burden.

One this is for sure, I can't image that lifestyle and quality of retirement!

FWIW, I did have a squiz at this NSW homeless site.
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[IFocus]

Homeless people are often afflicted with mental illness so behaviors and discission making usually lack logic and are often beyond our comprehension.

 

[basilio]

Warning. Rant ahead.
Just my observation, thoughts and with regards specifically to the homeless and their choice of retiring to a life on the streets.
We have a couple that frequent the back of our store. I've a story or two to tell but not here.

With the vast array of support that is available, some still choose to continue sleeping on the streets. Wandering aimlessly, sponging of those of us who pay for their lifestyle/retirement choice.

Yes, I understand there's probably a myriad of factors of why the homeless chose or are forced onto that path. Not all stay on it though but those that do, I just don't get it.

I look back to a time in my teenage years when I necessitated to live out of my car, thankfully I still had a first years apprentice job but on those wages, life sure looked bleak.

Fish shop chips (20c worth) in between two slices of bread, smothered in vegemite was often b/fast and the evening meal. That was over a three month period where I saved and skimped and just didn't go out, pissing money up against the urinal wall. That saved money help me secure a room at a boarding house.

That time was also the seeds to learning a tad, nay, a sh*t ton more about "money".

So I just don't get why in this day and age, why anyone would want to live it large out on the streets, subject to all the vagrancies of our weather and not-so-likeable characters.

I really do think that we as a society, should do more in getting the homeless to contribute instead of being a burden.

One this is for sure, I can't image that lifestyle and quality of retirement!

FWIW, I did have a squiz at this NSW homeless site.
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Seriously wondering about the perception that homeless people prefer living rough than in a warm, clean comfortable house.
Talking about "all the support that is available " . Sorry but that is just not realistic or correct.

The facts of life in our society are quite simple. If you can't pay enough money to rent or buy a home you don't get to live in one.
Ok there is Emergency housing. Short term , desperate. Almost always for women and children.

Public Housing ? Yes it's there but these days very limited and waiting lists are years out.

If you lose your job. If you can't get a job. If your job pays xhit wages or is only 10 hours a week.
If you fall ill. Get hurt. Get upset. Get thrown out of a relationship for any reason.

You can rapidly become homeless.
If you don't have a family or friends who help out with a spare room or a couch it doesn't take long to be living in car.
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I posted the story of a woman who recreated her life without money. She created a network of friends, relationships and hard graft which sees her comfortable but without the financial structure almost all of us need to have to achieve the same result.
One of the interesting parts of the story is that she feels more secure with her situation now than when she lived in the structured society roles that required a paid job, ownership of property, involvement in the financial world we all see as essential.

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Can anyone remember the not too distant past ? When it was crime to be poor and homeless ?

There were specific laws called "Being with insufficient lawful means of support " I was just reading a book today and in Ballarat in 1955 Jack Morone died in jail (cerebral hemorrhage) midway through a 6 month sentence for "having insufficient lawful means of support." 1/

The English Vagrancy Act was introduced to drive people off the streets .

Policing the Poor: The History of Vagrancy Laws and the Criminalisation of Homelessness | NSW Courts

Although vagrancy is no longer a crime, a range of laws remain in place which empower police officers to target and persecute the poor.

nswcourts.com.au

1/ An Orphans Escape. Frank Golding page 130

Elizabeth and Frank Golding 2024

This week author, researcher and historian Dr Frank Golding OAM will see the launch of his new book: THAT’S NOT MY CHILD: Five Generations on the Welfare Treadmill, the biographic prequel to AN ORPHAN’S ESCAPE, memories of a lost childhood. Frank’s autobiography An Orphan’s Escape describes the...

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[moXJO]

Homeless people are often afflicted with mental illness so behaviors and discission making usually lack logic and are often beyond our comprehension.

Previously it was. The rents being ridiculously high have now caused problems for everyone.