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Wage Rises

School not Sckool.

Anyway.
Kris currently that works well for you and your friends.

But as you get older the opportunities you enjoy now will be offered to those younger like you are today.
Short term Gains or Long term stability/financial security.

You decide.

Perhaps you could make good use of those "saved hrs'--Smarter not harder!!
 
krisbarry said:
I have worked many Xmas days, New years Eve's, Easter's, Weekends, Weeknights etc.

I never have a boring social life as I find most of my friends work odd hours too. Who works 9-5 anymore?
This will be my 5th consecutive year of being at work or on-call (24/7) from mid-December to the end of January. I'm not complaining - $$$. Probably makes me one of the few people who drinks absolutely no alcohol over the whole Christmas / new year period though. Probably good for health... :D

As for 9 to 5, it's normally 8 to 5 for me and quite often 8 to 6 but then there's the days off etc. I would much rather work longer hours on a given day than be one of those who works 6 or 7 days a week. Do that and you're living to work rather than working to live IMO. That said, I've done the 7 days thing before (admittedly not for long) and would do it again if there were a valid reason. :2twocents
 
tech/a said:
School not Sckool.

Anyway.
Kris currently that works well for you and your friends.

But as you get older the opportunities you enjoy now will be offered to those younger like you are today.
Short term Gains or Long term stability/financial security.

You decide.

Perhaps you could make good use of those "saved hrs'--Smarter not harder!!

The term used as school, is actually skool...ask ya kids they will tell you, now you are showing your age mate...LOL

Ever heard of old skool music...its revamped 80's and 90 music!

Tip: listen to Fresh-FM 92.7 on the FM band, I am assuming you listen to talkback on the AM band though. LOL
 
krisbarry said:
Now who is better off?

The worker with the 40 hour week job for stability or the 20 hour week worker with plenty of free-time...you decided?
If it were me I would be taking $$$ from the 20 hour a week job but seeing if I could do another 20 hours either there or somewhere else to pump up the income.

At some point there WILL be a recession and work becomes very hard to find. A game of musical chairs where there are considerably more workers than available work and at some point you could well be unemployed. Best to bring in the money while the economic sun is shining in my opinion.
 
krisbarry said:
Ever heard of old skcool music...its revamped 80's and 90 music!
Ah yes! Revamped 80's music. Must get the records out and listen to the proper version... :D :D

I'll start worrying about creativity when Stock, Aitken and Waterman make a comeback remixing Sinitta with Bros and Rick Astley... Or when someone thinks they can do a better job of singing Kids In America than Kim Wilde did.

Actually, Kim Wilde is one of those from the 80's who can actually still sing pretty well live. Well she did two years ago in Melbourne anyway. Well I think so! Not that I'm a retro music freak though I am going to the Motley Crue concert next month. :) As for something newer, if you get the chance to see Green Day or The Offspring live then it's worth going but give Simple Plan a miss IMO. Exact same antics live as on the "live" tracks on CD... And I will admit to having seen Shannon Noll live (supporting Bryan Adams) - a lot better than I expected. You might have guessed that I'm a bit of concert person and not really into techno... :p:
 
Kauri/Smurf, on futher reading, and considering the events with the Lane Cove fiasco... Its obvious that businesses can't be trusted to provide essential services, becuase of their greed and propensity to cut corners and look for profits... so I have to agree with you there...

(apparently the tunnel was being in dug in an area not approved in the original coucil submission plans... 65m off course... and put it right under the residential appartment blocks!!!)

Essential services are a cash cows, as everyone needs them, and leaving it in the hands of businesses mean they have the consumer by the balls! i.e. prices go up, service goes down, etc...

Strangely enough, its these very same businesses who we now rely on to provide a happy, healthy work environment... and not exploit their employeers in the same way they exploint their customers...

Is is just me, or is something not right here... how can we expect them to behave ethically with employers when they can't behave ethically with customers, etc...

PS: I know there are quite a few businesses run very ethically and are great places to work for... e.g. tech/A's business... but most businesses, run by humans, who are controlled by greed... hence, we need laws in place to promote ethical behaviour and to promote behaviour that will lead to better social harmony...

if we end up with a class of business owners and class of workers... with massive differences in living standards and feeling of injustice (even if its unjustified), everyone will suffer. As the riots in France demonstrate, previous revolutions in other countries, things can get a lot lot worse... and it WILL effect everyone!
 
I find it a little funny Kris that you enjoy the current economic conditions with multiple pay rises, yet you bag on the Govt that greatly helped create it.
 
Yes isnt it ironic that I do enjoy wage rises, dont we all? But what is given in one hand is rapidly taken in the other. The government are greedier than ever, remember that! This is the highest taxed government in Australia's history, its easy to balance the books whens you grab so much tax isn't it?, as the ATO does. LOL
 
That's because you are paying a large number of state taxes that where supposed to be abolished when the GST we introduced however the states reneged and kept them.
 
krisbarry said:
This is the highest taxed government in Australia's history, its easy to balance the books whens you grab so much tax isn't it?, as the ATO does. LOL
And print so much more money as the RBA has been doing. It's hard to go broke when you just call the RBA and ask them to print you some more fiat currency. Until, that is, the markets work out what is going on...
 
University funding to be tied to lecturers signing AWA's, and their union being excluded from negotiations.

About time those militant socialist thugs were reigned in.
Many a time university lecturers walked off site halfway during a concrete pour!
 
krisbarry said:
Yes isnt it ironic that I do enjoy wage rises, dont we all? But what is given in one hand is rapidly taken in the other. The government are greedier than ever, remember that! This is the highest taxed government in Australia's history, its easy to balance the books whens you grab so much tax isn't it?, as the ATO does. LOL

Kris,

I think you mean ..." the highest taxing government".... not highest taxed. Generally the government taxes the nation. So, you are taxed.

To blame the Howard government on taxes is a bit unfair considering you pay state taxes also. The GST goes to the states and they pocket it without boosting spending on hospitals etc. Are taxes high in Australia? Yes, I agree with you there.

Thanks for the radio link posted earlier. It really got me going today.

Snake
 
Of course silly me, thanks for the correction. Yes I should have posted it as the highest taxing government.

Thanks

To true, there are many state taxes too...one of which I think is only in South Australia, the "Emergency Services Levy". A tax on every household that goes towards funding the emergency services-police, fire, ambulance etc.

These services used to be funded out of the government purse, now they are 1/2 funded by this levy.

Another is slapped on water bills in SA is the river murray levy.

Poor home owners in SA are struggling to pay these extra fees/charges/taxes/levies.
 
If anything the federal govt has cut tax. With income being reduced recently. There is no way Labor would cut taxes. It's not their way because the demographic they represent are people that depend on handouts and people without private investment.

As people more and more people move towards private investment, support for Labor will continue to drop because people fear their ecomonic handling will cause them to loose out. So you should learn to love the Libs because they probably will be in office for a long time.

Even though I know Labor support a nice ideas such heavly investment in education (although with the current state of the public schools I'm questioning that.) and handouts, they will keep high taxes to pay for these causing business to move off shore followed by major unemployment and so on and so on.
 
To true, there are many state taxes too...one of which I think is only in South Australia, the "Emergency Services Levy". A tax on every household that goes towards funding the emergency services-police, fire, ambulance etc.
Queensland slaps the ambulance levy on the power bill. We have had problems because they put it on our wind machines because their system couldnt categorise them. Yeah, thats right mr Beattie, theres a leprecaun in there that pedals the wind machine and he needs ambulance cover. Now thats a good example of state govt taxing gone mad.
 
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