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Anthony Green has called it for Labor.
Maybe the start of the Coalition decline.
Maybe the start of the Coalition decline.
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Garpal Gumnut
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Agree it looks like an ALP victory.
Lib/Nats did not exactly inspire.
Greens may be a problem for ALP in Government.
gg
Lib/Nats did not exactly inspire.
Greens may be a problem for ALP in Government.
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The red necks are quiet tonight. 
big win too..congrats to the true believers.
big win too..congrats to the true believers.
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The red necks are quiet tonight.
I am so pleased you do not consider me in your vulgar epithet against the bush "rednecks" as I posted one hour before your celebratory emission.
Be humble in Victory and gracious in defeat.
It's called Democracy.
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Labor have bolted in with a majority of 7seats.
Not the full answer but will at least ease the traffic gridlock with the focus on public transport.
For the first time the Greens have picked upa seat in the lower house and too close to call either way at the moment for a second. Nothing to b too excited about, but the support base is building around Australia for sensible approaches to the reality of climate change.
Not the full answer but will at least ease the traffic gridlock with the focus on public transport.
For the first time the Greens have picked upa seat in the lower house and too close to call either way at the moment for a second. Nothing to b too excited about, but the support base is building around Australia for sensible approaches to the reality of climate change.
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Plod, I will bet London to a brick that an ALP Government in Victoria will guarantee an LNP victory federally in 2016
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Not with Tony Abbott at the helm. He's poison in Victoria.
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Well I did indicate that dynamic of history in an earlier post today. Dont' get me wrong, I do not prescibe to Labor with its branch stacking and centralist control over rank and file members. Very much different to the "mandella style" of inclusion as practiced within the Greens.
And the slangers of this world are ignorance to be passed by.
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I am astounded that Victorians have such short memories, they don't seem to care where this money is coming from.
Do they even think/care about Australia's future, or is it all about themselves?
Do they even think/care about Australia's future, or is it all about themselves?
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A one term Coalition government. Probably hasn't happened before.
A dire warning for the Federal Libs unless they get their act together.
A big two fingers from Victorian's/Melbournites to Abbott $3Billion pork barrel WestConex. It's no easy job leading our leaders away from their grovelling to vested interests. But here's a decent start. We'll see how long the Federal government can hold back funding for your public transport infrastructure, Lead up to the next Federal election if it even takes that long, My guess.
IMHO, I believe the Labor Party in Victoria have an enormous challenge ahead of them and time will tell as to whether they have the expertise to carry out what they say.....If they do not perform in the first two years then they will hand an easy victory to the Liberal Party come the next Federal election.
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What confidence do you have in the following ?
http://www.danielandrews.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Victorian-Labors-Project-10000.pdf
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The new east west link was wanted by over 60% of Victorians, it wasn't that decision that lost it, though it probably didn't help.
There was a change of leader mid government which always doesn't help either however the main cause in my view was that it was a way to get back at Tony who has damaged the Liberal brand and is perceived to be incompetent,unfair and dishonest. Tony is toxic down here. If he is still leader at the next election, I can promise he won't have many Victorian seats. They used his face on a lot of the advertising.
A real shame, Napthine deserved to win. I worry for Victoria. We all know there will be no money for anything once the new Premier has rewarded all the public sector unions with big pay rises.
There was a change of leader mid government which always doesn't help either however the main cause in my view was that it was a way to get back at Tony who has damaged the Liberal brand and is perceived to be incompetent,unfair and dishonest. Tony is toxic down here. If he is still leader at the next election, I can promise he won't have many Victorian seats. They used his face on a lot of the advertising.
A real shame, Napthine deserved to win. I worry for Victoria. We all know there will be no money for anything once the new Premier has rewarded all the public sector unions with big pay rises.
at an average of $100+ million a pop I'd say someones being conned. Build a lot of bike paths and avoid a lot diabetes for a lot less than $$$ix billion, kinda sorta thing that sort of pays for itself.
On another note CNG (compressed Natural Gas) is now retailed in Aspendale, bayside Melbourne, Servicing Eastmoor Taxi's . At last a bit value adding to our natural gas is available to the masses. Toyota hybrid Camry's using CNG reportedly returning 250km for $10..... I'll hazzard a guess that a bit of industry support in this area just might be looked kindly upon by the voters, just a pity that cloth ears abound in cabinet......
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No, it didn't help. The Libs were too eager to sign contracts believing this project was a vote winner for them and also setting a financial trap for Andrews if it wasn't. Taking the EWL to the election was the more responsible thing to do knowing Labor opposed it. Now we have a real financial mess to contend with in Vic brought to us by the party of financial responsibility.
I don't think Abbott's toxicity is limited to just Vic. If Tony leads the Libs to the next election we will have yet another one term Lib government.
Why did Napthine "deserve" to win exactly? As for ending prolonged pay disputes with public sector workers, it's time for real negotiation to begin to end this fiasco. If you want to criticize unreasonable pay increases, start with politicians and corporate senior management where double digit annual pay rises are common.
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What a lot of judgemental rubbish on here this morning.
Andrews is new. he speaks in clear and articulate manner, the past is gone and none of can judge.
Lets just accept the verdict, move on and see.
Andrews is new. he speaks in clear and articulate manner, the past is gone and none of can judge.
Lets just accept the verdict, move on and see.
Now you are really grasping at straws.
Time will tell......time will tell.
