AAPL - Apple Inc. (NASDAQ)

[notting]

A Muppet being gouged at every turn, who doesn't see the walls built all around him and the world of things he could easily do is the further-est thing from -

A smart one.

Like a North Korean celebrating how the Great Leader made the Gods cry because it's snowing.
YOU DON'T NEED AN 'ECOSYSTEM' within an ecosystem!!!!!. What a joke. The internet and everything attached to it is the ecosystem. You can sync everything without Apple charging you to not be able to do that but having them set it up for you to keep you in their wading pool in the middle of the fricken ocean!!!

 

[luutzu]

A smart one.

A techie or a latte sipping YUP?

Nothing wrong with buying a consumer electronic and not bother with the user manual because "it just works". But no real tech geek get a kick out of plug and play dude.

 

[galumay]

You can sync everything without Apple charging you to not be able to do that but having them set it up for you to keep you in their wading pool in the middle of the fricken ocean!!!

Maybe you can, but millions of people see it as an inconsequential charge for a significant convenience, if you dont see it that way its fine, no one is forcing you to use the Apple ecosystem.

 

[luutzu]

You can download google play in the Apple App Store, no reason amazon couldn’t also create an app and sell content through it.

Also, Samsung has its own content distribution, so it’s not just google and Apple.

Samsung runs on Android, a google mobile OS. As far as I know, Samsung don't have their own app store. It's all through Google's Play.

 

[notting]

Maybe you can, but millions of people see it as an inconsequential charge for a significant convenience, if you dont see it that way its fine, no one is forcing you to use the Apple ecosystem.

No problem just don't call it 'smart.'
Like getting anything I want from anybody or device (apart Iphones) on a USB stick plugging that into my phone and loading it on to my phones 400G SD card that costs nothing. Very convenient.
In earlier times you couldn't even watch videos on mainstream news sites on your i phone when you could on Android devices. It wasn't' until they started openly mocking Apple for it that Apple changed it. Apple wanted to restrict you to their video format so they could monopolies your news and even internet feed too. They gave up on that wall!!

 

[luutzu]

Maybe you can, but millions of people see it as an inconsequential charge for a significant convenience, if you dont see it that way its fine, no one is forcing you to use the Apple ecosystem.

"inconsequential charge" LOL

Sounds like your business interest is talking rather than common sense dude.

A set of earphone that dangles round your ears costs how much? And I bet it sounds really great hanging lose like it's designed to fall off and not break or goes missing, at all.

 

[luutzu]

No problem just don't call it 'smart.'
Like getting anything I want from anybody or device (apart Iphones) on a USB stick plugging that into my phone and loading it on to my phones 400G SD card that costs nothing. Very convenient.
In earlier times you couldn't even watch videos on mainstream news sites on your i phone when you could on Android devices. It wasn't' until they started openly mocking Apple for it that Apple changed it. Apple wanted to restrict you their video format so they could monopolies your news and even internet feed too. They gave up on that wall!!

Can't become a trillion dollar company without having a few loyal idiots.

 

[notting]

Hang on a sec I just have to charge my earphones, again..
You know I can't plug anything else into it only this $200 pair. Shi7 wher'd it go?
Got my little pody pod in my pocket for that too.

 

[luutzu]

 

[galumay]

Hang on a sec I just have to charge my earphones, again..
You know I can't plug anything else into it only this $200 pair. Shi7 wher'd it go?
Got my little pody pod in my pocket for that too.

Again, your frustration is genuine, but the rest of us dont feel it. No one is forcing you to play in the Apple pond.

Does the business model work though? Because thats actually what we are considering. For mine it remains a very compelling and high conviction investment. Maybe I will be proven wrong, but for now I continue to hold.

 

[Value Collector]

Samsung runs on Android, a google mobile OS. As far as I know, Samsung don't have their own app store. It's all through Google's Play.

As far as I can see they are separate distribution platforms, and as I said you can use google play on an apple device, so there is no monolpoly there.

 

[notting]

There is no frustration from my side. It's more like disbelief and amazement at how stupid people really are and how stupid the media and culture is also in just following along with it. (from a consumer and life style point of view)
Yes, the business model is great. How could you argue with it from an investment point of view? It's as good as it gets and continuing to hold is the thing to do at this stage of the game for sure.
It's important to remember that SJs original vision was to take advantage of the ordinary Jo, not to cater to the elite or the rational. The idea was to make it simplistic and easy. That's what it is and that's where the big market and money is. Credit for the business model. There really is a sucker born every minute so why not feed them something so suck on and make a killing.
PS It's interesting how Wozniak is still alive and that Steve Jobs is, well, dead.
You're only as rich as what you actually made do out of your wealth, no matter what the numbers say!
The richest mode of all is giving from the heart with sincere wish to make anthers life easier/better. Perhaps that's why people love their children so much and say they are the most important things in their lives, despite the fact they are the worst investment in the world as far as money goes.

 

[Value Collector]

A techie or a latte sipping YUP?

Nothing wrong with buying a consumer electronic and not bother with the user manual because "it just works". But no real tech geek get a kick out of plug and play dude.

Most people are there for the content, rather than tech for tech sake.

I don’t want to be wasting time fiddling with things, adjusting, I want to get to my content as easily and seemlessly as I can, I think that’s what people pay for.

I am not saying hobbyists etc don’t exist, sure their is people that love servicing their car etc, but most people just want the car to work, have the cup holders the right size and in the right place, have heated seats etc.

I read an article the other day that said testing showed the latest Samsung phone was 10% faster than the iPhone, but straight away I thought to my self, an intuitive user friendly navigation platform would blow the 0.1 second I would save having a Samsung if it takes me 10 seconds to click the button due to poor software.

 

[luutzu]

As far as I can see they are separate distribution platforms, and as I said you can use google play on an apple device, so there is no monolpoly there.

Not sure that you can run Android apps on an Apple OS. But then I use maybe 10% of my phones anyway, so all the useless stuff are just there to take up bandwidth and memory.

 

[luutzu]

Most people are there for the content, rather than tech for tech sake.

I don’t want to be wasting time fiddling with things, adjusting, I want to get to my content as easily and seemlessly as I can, I think that’s what people pay for.

I am not saying hobbyists etc don’t exist, sure their is people that love servicing their car etc, but most people just want the car to work, have the cup holders the right size and in the right place, have heated seats etc.

I read an article the other day that said testing showed the latest Samsung phone was 10% faster than the iPhone, but straight away I thought to my self, an intuitive user friendly navigation platform would blow the 0.1 second I would save having a Samsung if it takes me 10 seconds to click the button due to poor software.

Yea, I have nothing against consumers using Macs and Apple products; or any products that makes them happy, serve their purpose. That's what all tools are for.

Just don't call a mac an IT techie environment like what's his face did. It make very bored people laugh.


An Apple product, apparently, works seamlessly with other Apple products. So the consumer gotta buy all of their gear from them to enjoy the benefit (and price gouging... wait, price gouging comes with each purchase ).

For someone who might like an iPhone but doesn't have a damn MacBook or Macintosh PC, doing the simplest of things take a long, long while. Or not possible at all.

Don't other people download music and docos from YouTube and other places all the time? Try getting them into the iPhone. What, gotta pay Apple for things people can get for free now?

So in that sense, it's not really a car that just work. It's car that works great if you drive on Mac-only roads, using Mac-approved everything.

 

[notting]

So in that sense, it's not really a car that just work. It's car that works great if you drive on Mac-only roads, using Mac-approved everything.

Like the forced use of their cloud, forcing you to use up masses of data that you don't need to use on Android cause the phone can handle it for a 10th of the price in storage cards or just transferring what ever you want to PC without having to jump through hoops and use a peace of garbage like syncing fricken Itunes.
Having to Log in all time to upgrade, get an app or do fricken anything. Forcing you to upgrade when you don't need or want to by pestering you every day and insisting you affirm 'I will do it tomorrow,' rather than just telling them to Fuc3 off. There is nothing seamless about any of this it's a total pain in the arse. All because they want you locked in there jail and taking you where they want you to go with the way you are using the device not the way that best suits you.
Even the recordings you do have to be emailed to yourself in order to get them from say your phone to your MAC or PC. Itunes is the biggest dog of a program a terrible peace of software, that screws around with you all the time with stuff you actually own but never do because in order for Apple to cut a deal with the music companies and get the music on their phones ,they sold out their customers freedom to genuinely own and put the music on what ever they want to even though Apple users have paid for it!!! It's all locked into Apples 'ecosystem' and there are countless cases of Muppets who lose all their music and videos, even the ones they made!!! and don't know how to get it back!!
I could go on and on and on and on. In short I just say NEVER BUY A MAC anything!

It's pathetic.

PS Jailbreak has been a very popular non Apple App to get out of it to some extent but Apple keep coming up with ways to stop that too. WOW what a world of service it isn't!
Seamless my butt!

 

[Value Collector]

Yea, I have nothing against consumers using Macs and Apple products; or any products that makes them happy, serve their purpose. That's what all tools are for.

Just don't call a mac an IT techie environment like what's his face did. It make very bored people laugh.


An Apple product, apparently, works seamlessly with other Apple products. So the consumer gotta buy all of their gear from them to enjoy the benefit (and price gouging... wait, price gouging comes with each purchase ).

For someone who might like an iPhone but doesn't have a damn MacBook or Macintosh PC, doing the simplest of things take a long, long while. Or not possible at all.

Don't other people download music and docos from YouTube and other places all the time? Try getting them into the iPhone. What, gotta pay Apple for things people can get for free now?

So in that sense, it's not really a car that just work. It's car that works great if you drive on Mac-only roads, using Mac-approved everything.

I used to be a pc guy, I thought I was saving money buying a “cheaper” pc rather than “expensive” Mac, I can tell you, that was false economy, when you work out all the software you had to purchase for the pc that comes included with the Mac, and time saved organizing photos etc, the after sales support, Mac is pretty good value for money.

I understand a lot of people just don’t get it, but a enough people do to make Mac know worth $1 Trillion.

Anyway, I think this is a bit like the old ford vs holden, it’s funny to me that so many Samsung users seem to have a real bee in the bonnet against apple products, they always seem to be negative and “against Apple” and apple users, meanwhile Apple users are just over here enjoying an ecosystem that works, doing the things we pick up our phones and computers and TVs to do.

Of course you can nit pick but in reality, I probably would never want to return to the bad old days of my PC use, I wouldn’t touch a Samsung phone again.

 

[notting]

I have Macs all around me the really expensive screens and fricken Thunderbolt fricken backup box over wireless and all the BS and I NEVER USE THEM EVEN THOUGH I TOTALLY CAN!!!!! i Always use my PCs and I have three I phones in the draw right next to me and I always use my Android devices. There all set to go and can all do what I need them to for 'most common' use things. Macs are limited for the more sophisticated activities I get up to on that as well not being appealing for anything basic either.
So don't give me your BS sucker testimony.
It's a choice I make every moment of every day even for simple tasks. When you're a genuine tech guy with abundance overflowing. That's a real test not some BS about how you eventually got sucked in during a weaker moment and decided to switch because there must be something good about it, or what ever glamor moment where you lost your sense of things amidst the ritzy dazzle populist charade.
Now you feel too confused to go back, it's just not worth it, Oh but then what about all your stuff on it? Gets just a bit hard don't it!? You'd feel pretty dumb about the money you spent too and going back on that so carry on, Fool.
So carry on with your attempts to try to still feel smart about it
It's not a Holdem Ford thing that is so moronic.

 

[Value Collector]

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So don't give me your BS sucker testimony.
It's a choice I make every moment of every day even for simple tasks. When you're a genuine tech guy with abundance overflowing. That's a real test not some BS about how you eventually got sucked in during a weaker moment and decided to switch because there must be something good about it, or what ever glamor moment where you lost your sense of things amidst the ritzy dazzle populist charade.
Now you feel too confused to go back, it's just not worth it, Oh but then what about all your stuff on it? Gets just a bit hard don't it!? You'd feel pretty dumb about the money you spent too and going back on that so carry on, Fool.
So carry on with your attempts to try to still feel smart about it
It's not a Holdem Ford thing that is so moronic.

I rest my Case the anti iPhone crowd always seem so mad that other people enjoy using their apple products and get value from them, I don’t get it, if you are happy with your setup why waste time trying to trash talk another system which obviously ship loads of people are also happy with

I mean if it makes you feel like a bigger “techie” buy all means do what you want, but that’s not where most of the market find value.

 

[notting]

Most people I shine a light on with regard to their Apple products especially the I phones are deeply grateful and ask me if they can come to me when they are going to get a new phone!!
They are usually emphatically enthusiastic in agreement, when you point out the traps and gouging etc.
They are very grateful for having been liberate when the time comes too.

Then every now and then you get these passive aggressive Apple users in denial.
They go to extraordinary lengths to cling to all the poses they struck whilst strutting around with their clownware.
The ones with the Apple watches are too tragic you almost can't look at them for embarrassment, let alone bring it up, unless their so rich it's just another thing for the day and can share the joke with you.
The ones lining up in the stores for days to be the 'first' to get the new Iphone, you know the one being released in a all the other shops on the same day and for the rest of the year, it's not like they are grand final tickets,) and look at all the bunnies lined up behind him!!!. Linging up like this when they are all ready being sold in other places - these are the ones that get 'clapped by the apple staff' as they go in the door OMG

interview with an idiot I mean a hero -



Wow your interviewing this guy and putting it on TV. No wonder conventional media have all lost billions and billions over the time the smart phone became a thing!!!
How many advertising dollars did they just lose with that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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