Louise Bedford course

[notting]

Advertising covertly or otherwise can always be questionable. But if u do have something to offer at a reasonable price I just wouldn't slight it. U have to let people know somehow and people like me are quick to be cynical it's not an easy balance , it is business.
Sorry to be conciliatory.

 

[tech/a]

That's a Non Sequitur Tech/a and you have zero basis for saying that.

Well let's see.

I am sorry if you are offended that I have reservations about your mentor's character, but it is based in my experience.

So clearly a personal sleight which is out if context here

But FYI, I have no challenge with Radge's education program. I think it is good and I have not criticized the information. It is about his behaviour on this site, and elsewhere.

Which has no place here---in my opinion. Why did you bring it up?
TThere have been no " personal " criticism directed toward anyone here that I can see!

Why are you happy for people to criticize other spruikers here (and participate mightily yourself), yet get all huffy when your own spruiker cops a minor sleight?

Within context no problem
Other than that it's a personal sleight
" Tall poppy syndrome "

Hypocrisy??

Nah.

 

[wayneL]

Well let's see.

So clearly a personal sleight which is out if context here

Which has no place here---in my opinion. Why did you bring it up?
TThere have been no " personal " criticism directed toward anyone here that I can see!

Within context no problem
Other than that it's a personal sleight
" Tall poppy syndrome "

Nah.

Sorry Tech, as it was you who started spruiking him once his name was mentioned, it was very much in context.

YOU, in effect, brought it up.

As there is a long and noble tradition of slamming spruikers and spammers, which you are one of the main proponents of, St Nick is fair game.

But I repeat, no issue with the quality of his offerings, just the spamming and subsequent dummy spit on this board.

FFS, I even complimented the title of the book.

If it is tall poppy syndrome as you claim, then you are massively guilty of the same as you have slagged off heaps of "educators" here.

Do you have a man-crush on him or something?

 

[burglar]

Sorry Tech, as it was you who started spruiking him once his name was mentioned, it was very much in context.

YOU, in effect, brought it up.

As there is a long and noble tradition of slamming spruikers and spammers, which you are one of the main proponents of, St Nick is fair game.

But I repeat, no issue with the quality of his offerings, just the spamming and subsequent dummy spit on this board.

FFS, I even complimented the title of the book.

If it is tall poppy syndrome as you claim, then you are massively guilty of the same as you have slagged off heaps of "educators" here.

Do you have a man-crush on him or something?

Whoa!

 

[nulla nulla]

Breathes out...wow this is good stuff. Haven't seen a good stoush like this for a long time. Though that swipe about a "man crush" was a little below the belt (get it ).

Bring on round two, I just got some fresh munchies.

 

[tech/a]

In Context yes.

Your personal issues are yours.

I'll continue to bag spammers and those that present limited or no content.
Without reservation those who show no practical application.

Personal sleights directed by me you'll find follow personal sleights directed squarely at the duck.( go have a look )
Enjoy a discussion but despise personal attack.

Celia and I count Nick and Trish as friends----- as you do----- after a 20 yr personal and business relationship.
You've also been around long enough to know that Nick and I have gone head to head on many occasions.
But the man is as you see. Doesn't suffer fools at all. Certainly doesn't mince words---and a man of few.
Above all though I've found him to be honest and totally professional. Pretty rare in this game.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

This is an extremely good paper on suckers and seers.

Published in Technology Review, June/July, 1980, 16-24
The Seer-Sucker Theory: The Value of Experts in Forecasting
J. Scott Armstrong

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=648763

It can be downloaded for free.




Another good reference is Dire Straits.



gg

 

[CanOz]

This is no place for that discussion to evolve into a slinging match, it should be taken off the thread to PM in my view.

In regards to comparing TheChartist to Louise Bedford's service i can say only that from my experience Nick is very conservative in advertising his service and he tends to rely on his good reputation, performance and service with his clients. His service is one of the most conservatively priced that i have encountered. His Profitable Trader seminar is very good value.

I would have no doubt that for 7000 AUD Louise would provide lots of good value, personal coaching etc. If you can afford that then go for it. She is well known and fairly well respected in the industry. Certainly doesn't deserve the title 'cow'...

I agree that if you want an education in the market's you'll need to pay...either pay a mentor, or pay the market. Either way you'll get an education and it will cost you...what one does with the education from either option is what is more important.

CanOz

 

[aarbee]

Just one thing to point out; from what I know of the captioned mentorship program, Chris Tate is the co-mentor. In fact, Louise restricts herself more to the psychological side of training. The trading side is handled predominantly by Chris Tate.
Louise is the marketiing force behind the mentorship course.
I used to look forward to their newsletter but in the past year or so, Chris seems to have dropped out of the newsletter and Louise's contribution is nearly all in marketing the next mentorship course. I have now un-subscribed myself from the newsletter.

Cheers

 

[tech/a]

Trust no one.

Dont know that that is necessary.
Trust is earnt as is respect.

 

[burglar]

Dont know that that is necessary.
Trust is earnt as is respect.

Meanwhile, there is due diligence.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Should anyone be looking for a mentor on how to simultaneously ride a bicycle without a bicycle helmet, smoke a cohiba and eat a battered fish on a bicycle path full of coppers and lycra clad peletonics, and not get stopped out by market forces, I have a course starting on April 1, 2013.

Cost is $15,000 if you register before March 1.

$7,000 if you register after that date.

gg

 

[sval62]

Should anyone be looking for a mentor on how to simultaneously ride a bicycle without a bicycle helmet, smoke a cohiba and eat a battered fish on a bicycle path full of coppers and lycra clad peletonics, and not get stopped out by market forces, I have a course starting on April 1, 2013.

Cost is $15,000 if you register before March 1.

$7,000 if you register after that date.

gg

I'm in, please send me your bank a/c details and I will deposit the 15 grand asap.
Do you you include a nice drop of vino in the price?

 

[tech/a]

Spent a half hr going over her site " The Trading Game"

Professionally put together.
Appears they are going the same way as many
In the field of design and testing a trading methodology.

There is no doubt her persona is an advantage in their marketing.
Tata also looks like a non nonsense type of gangster.

I'd say they didn't get a single bite at $15k and even if they did
A simple refund once the $7k offer was announced would have
Had praise not condemnation.

What sort of value do posters put on mentorship
And how do they derive that figure

 

[IFocus]

Isn't Radge a spruiker too?

I'll weigh in here

Spruiker

=gives impression they are really, really good trader.
= sells over priced course on secret to trade to make promised fortune.
= claims to trade said method personally and making a killing.
= never and I mean never gives results real time or other of personal account
= never and I mean never declares own holdings or trades ongoing.

I could go but I am sure everyone gets the point

I know there was a massive falling out on this site (don't know the details) with a number of people and his name became he who must not be mentioned.

If I remember EW was at the centre of the dispute (who would have thought)

Have known of and or known Radge like Tech for must be going on 15 or more years.

I have only ever known Radge to act with complete transparency and integrity whether talking about trading or personal stuff.

He has only ever charged prices he would have been prepared to pay himself and given away massive amounts of time and information for free simply because he thought he wouldn't pay for it so he couldn't charge for it.

Radge is certainly a significant part (not all) of my own marathon to become profitable.

I support and would recommend him 100%. There is only one other person in the game I would say the same and she no longer runs education (it messed up her trading).

Is Radge a spruiker = no

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

I'll weigh in here

Spruiker

=gives impression they are really, really good trader.
= sells over priced course on secret to trade to make promised fortune.
= claims to trade said method personally and making a killing.
= never and I mean never gives results real time or other of personal account
= never and I mean never declares own holdings or trades ongoing.

I could go but I am sure everyone gets the point

I know there was a massive falling out on this site (don't know the details) with a number of people and his name became he who must not be mentioned.

If I remember EW was at the centre of the dispute (who would have thought)

Have known of and or known Radge like Tech for must be going on 15 or more years.

I have only ever known Radge to act with complete transparency and integrity whether talking about trading or personal stuff.

He has only ever charged prices he would have been prepared to pay himself and given away massive amounts of time and information for free simply because he thought he wouldn't pay for it so he couldn't charge for it.

Radge is certainly a significant part (not all) of my own marathon to become profitable.

I support and would recommend him 100%. There is only one other person in the game I would say the same and she no longer runs education (it messed up her trading).

Is Radge a spruiker = no

+1

gg

 

[nulla nulla]

Too much personal information coming out here as respective posters try to defend their friendships with a respected trader/publisher/business person. Totally off topic and unnecessary.

Perhaps time a responsible moderator stepped in and flushed out the off topic posts? Joe.. Prawn...System..??

 

[tech/a]

Too much personal information coming out here as respective posters try to defend their friendships with a respected trader/publisher/business person. Totally off topic and unnecessary.

Perhaps time a responsible moderator stepped in and flushed out the off topic posts? Joe.. Prawn...System..??

Positive response and affirmations ----- delete them.
Derogatory comments and views ----- keep them.

Amazing!

 

[nulla nulla]

On topic comments in regard the pro's and con's of the Louise Bedford course, including objective comparisons with other trader/authors/programs such as Nick Radge, Alan Hull, Guppy etc etc ...keep them.

Personal exchanges loaded with personal information, flush them out as irrelevent and off topic. No offence. Nothing personal. Nothing to be gained and totally irrelevent.

 

[tech/a]

On topic comments in regard the pro's and con's of the Louise Bedford course, including objective comparisons with other trader/authors/programs such as Nick Radge, Alan Hull, Guppy etc etc ...keep them.

Personal exchanges loaded with personal information, flush them out as irrelevent and off topic. No offence. Nothing personal. Nothing to be gained and totally irrelevent.

Loaded with personal information---your kidding me---- delete away!