The Voice

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Thankfully the Voice rejection has shown some people we won't put up with people invading homes and expecting to be treated like victims.

Police rule out charges over man's death in Kalgoorlie home invasion

WA Police Commissioner Col Blanch says a man will not be charged over a fatal confrontation during a home invasion in Kalgoorlie last year.

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@SirRumpole On the afternoon news today the dead cretton's mother is going to be interviewed, no doubt claiming his actions didn't deserve his demise.

Now if anyone, black, white or brindle broke into my home with a machete his stay breathing oxygen would be very short lived.

Brings to mind a case in the Swan Valley some years ago with an elderly Italian gent and his very ill wife suffering the trauma of a break-in.
He took to the invader with a shot gun.
The police were going to charge him, but the public outcry was so great that I think that the Government of the day charged the law in regard to home invasion
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Common Sense prevailed then and does so now with the Boulder incident.

 

[IFocus]

@SirRumpole On the afternoon news today the dead cretton's mother is going to be interviewed, no doubt claiming his actions didn't deserve his demise.

Now if anyone, black, white or brindle broke into my home with a machete his stay breathing oxygen would be very short lived.

Brings to mind a case in the Swan Valley some years ago with an elderly Italian gent and his very ill wife suffering the trauma of a break-in.
He took to the invader with a shot gun.
The police were going to charge him, but the public outcry was so great that I think that the Government of the day charged the law in regard to home invasion
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Common Sense prevailed then and does so now with the Boulder incident.

Another case in SA very similar

 

[investor13]

Found your glasses...eh.

You found anything to back up these fantasy claims?

 

[IFocus]

You found anything to back up these fantasy claims?

You found any manners along with the glasses.

 

[wayneL]

You found any manners along with the glasses.

The irony

 

[investor13]

You found any manners along with the glasses.

im sure those claims cant be to hard to find and copy and past instead of being just socialist dribble

 

[JohnDe]

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“and what happens with both of those, we lose our humanity and our understanding that we’re actually all in this together”​

 

[investor13]

You found any manners along with the glasses.

Hey bruce pascoe 2.0 got any more amazing finds to bamboozle us with?

 

[JohnDe]

The Voice referendum helped open the eyes up of voters and taxpayers. Time for accountability.

Senator Price, who also continues in her position as shadow minister for Indigenous Australians, has now for the first time outlined her plans for the new role if the Coalition wins government.​

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"Going forward, what has come out of the result of the [Voice] referendum, is that Australians want to see taxpayer dollars work more effectively for them," she said.​

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"Right across the board, [but] certainly for marginalised Indigenous Australians.​

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"Australians want to cut the waste, they want to make sure that outcomes are coming to life with the way in which taxpayer dollars are being spent by their government."​

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Senator Price said she would "look at an audit of the billions of dollars that are spent in the Indigenous space, so that we can understand where that can be better spent", with a focus on the funding priorities of federal bodies such as the National Indigenous Australians Agency.​

Jacinta Nampijinpa Price pledges to cut Welcome to Country ceremony funding if elected

Coalition frontbencher Jacinta Nampijinpa Price says she'll look to stop federal funding for Indigenous Welcome to Country ceremonies if her party wins government at this year's federal election.

Earlier this week, Opposition Leader Peter Dutton handed the Northern Territory senator the shadow ministry for government efficiency in a cabinet reshuffle.

Senator Price, who also continues in her position as shadow minister for Indigenous Australians, has now for the first time outlined her plans for the new role if the Coalition wins government.

"Going forward, what has come out of the result of the [Voice] referendum, is that Australians want to see taxpayer dollars work more effectively for them," she said.

"Right across the board, [but] certainly for marginalised Indigenous Australians.

"Australians want to cut the waste, they want to make sure that outcomes are coming to life with the way in which taxpayer dollars are being spent by their government."

Senator Price said she would "look at an audit of the billions of dollars that are spent in the Indigenous space, so that we can understand where that can be better spent", with a focus on the funding priorities of federal bodies such as the National Indigenous Australians Agency.

She said she would also look to redirect funding currently used for Welcome to Country ceremonies.

"I don't believe that we should be spending $450,000 a [government] term on Welcome to Country, when that isn't actually improving the life of a marginalised Indigenous Australian," she said.

"That kind of funding could be redirected to actually improve the lives of marginalised Indigenous Australians, as opposed to being used for what is effectively a welcoming ceremony, many of which have now become quite politicised.

"I don't think it's necessary to have to spend so much money on something that's not really helping our most marginalised."

Senator Price dismissed as "surprising" comparisons of her new portfolio to Tesla owner Elon Musk's similarly-titled role in the new Trump administration in the United States.

Mr Musk as the head of US President Donald Trump's new Department of Government Efficiency, following his election in November.

Mr Dutton's cabinet reshuffle came just weeks after the US announcement.

"That was surprising that people were comparing me to Elon Musk, because certainly I don't have the same sort of bank account as Mr Musk has," Senator Price said.

"There was no sort of looking at what Trump was doing and going 'well, how can we do that over here?'

"That certainly wasn't an inspiration for this particular role.

"I think it's come about because I've sought a more efficient way of spending dollars in the Indigenous portfolio, and I've said in the past that we should apply these sorts of measures across the board, to identify where waste exists in other portfolios."

Labor concerned programs will be cut​

The new Coalition portfolio has garnered scepticism from the Albanese government's Indigenous Australians Minister Malarndirri McCarthy, who said she feared Senator Price would use the power to cut programs in the bush.

On Thursday, Senator McCarthy said in an interview on Central Australian Aboriginal broadcaster CAAMA that Senator Price was "going to be responsible for cutting programs".

"I'm worried. I think, is she going to cut … school holiday programs like the one at the pool, you know, the skate rink?" Senator McCarthy said.

"These holiday programs are really important."

In response, Senator Price described the comments as a "scare campaign".

"We will expect a scare campaign from Labor, this is how they conduct themselves," she said.

"She's clutching at straws to suggest to Indigenous Australians that they're the sort of programs that are going to have their funding cut.


"An audit needs to determine what programs are being effective and supporting Indigenous Australians, and those sort of programs are … supporting vulnerable Indigenous Australians."

Senator Price has been in Alice Springs this week alongside Mr Dutton, where the pair on Wednesday announced that an elected Coalition government would offer its "in-principle" support to a series of measures aimed at halting crime levels in the Red Centre town.

 

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The Voice referendum helped open the eyes up of voters and taxpayers. Time for accountability.

Senator Price, who also continues in her position as shadow minister for Indigenous Australians, has now for the first time outlined her plans for the new role if the Coalition wins government.​

​

"Going forward, what has come out of the result of the [Voice] referendum, is that Australians want to see taxpayer dollars work more effectively for them," she said.​

​

"Right across the board, [but] certainly for marginalised Indigenous Australians.​

​

"Australians want to cut the waste, they want to make sure that outcomes are coming to life with the way in which taxpayer dollars are being spent by their government."​

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Senator Price said she would "look at an audit of the billions of dollars that are spent in the Indigenous space, so that we can understand where that can be better spent", with a focus on the funding priorities of federal bodies such as the National Indigenous Australians Agency.​

@JohnDe Well this sounds all well and good.
We all know that the $waste is humongous but will those with their collective snouts in the dollar feeding trough be happy to see a pullback.
I don't think so.
Ever heard a squealing pig.
That noise will be nothing to what their scream of outrage will be !!!!

 

[JohnDe]

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For 15 months the Prime Minister and a rag-tag bunch of finger-waggers hectored people who had watched as an assortment of jumped-up nobodies was given airtime to trash-talk their country. Two and a quarter centuries of Indigenous misfortune dumped on the heads of white people who could expect to pay reparations for untried crimes allegedly committed by their distant ancestors.​

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It mattered not if your ancestors were soldiers with the First Fleet or refugees escaping from communist Vietnam. Your right to be accorded the same respect as every other citizen was about to be annulled in the Constitution.​

Labor’s voice failure won’t be forgotten at the ballot box

Climate Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowen’s thoughtless decision to anchor rows of giant wind turbines off the coast is not the only reason Labor MP Meryl Swanson should start looking for another job.

The member for Paterson retained her seat comfortably in 2022, but that was before anyone was told about the offshore wind zone that would occupy a stretch of ocean 1½ times larger than Greater Newcastle.

That wasn’t the only surprise.

The voice referendum was announced after the polls had closed.

It was rejected by 70 per cent of voters in Paterson, one of 56 Labor-held seats that said no to Anthony Albanese’s signature first-term policy.

The decision to pursue a single lost cause at the expense of everyday concerns exposed the Prime Minister as out of touch with vast swathes of Labor’s heartland long before his unfortunate decision to invest in prime coastal real estate.

At a time such as this Labor needs a prime minister such as Bob Hawke, a leader with finely honed interpersonal skills, sharp political instinct and emotional intelligence who could make himself at home in any front bar.

Instead it has Albanese, who is unable to read the room and seemingly incapable of passing the pub test in any establishment that doesn’t sell craft beer.

In 2022, former Labor adviser Lachlan Harris declared Albanese’s everyman persona his greatest strength in an era of scripted politicians.

Albanese’s colleague Tony Burke ranked him as “the closest we will see to a Hawke both in leadership style and in authenticity”.

The referendum ended any illusion that Albo is a man of the people.

If any Australians were losing sleep because of anxiety about the constitutional status of Aboriginal Australians, they were vastly outnumbered by those kept awake worrying about meeting mortgage repayments.

Yet Albanese chose to lavish his limited political capital pushing an esoteric solution to an abstract problem, using language foreign to most voters.

Conventional wisdom suggests voters are prepared to overlook rookie errors in a first-term government and give it a second chance. Yet Albanese’s referendum misjudgment is not one of those stories that flares for a week before disappearing from headlines.

For 15 months the Prime Minister and a rag-tag bunch of finger-waggers hectored people who had watched as an assortment of jumped-up nobodies was given airtime to trash-talk their country. Two and a quarter centuries of Indigenous misfortune dumped on the heads of white people who could expect to pay reparations for untried crimes allegedly committed by their distant ancestors.

It mattered not if your ancestors were soldiers with the First Fleet or refugees escaping from communist Vietnam. Your right to be accorded the same respect as every other citizen was about to be annulled in the Constitution.

Bob Hawke

People don’t easily get over that kind of bullying. Wounds opened by the voice debate are still raw among the people you run into on steak night at the Lithgow Workers Club, the Olary Hotel or any place where Australia Day is celebrated with unabashed enthusiasm.

Losing a referendum is not always a career-ender.

Robert Menzies failed to get the 1951 Communist Party dissolution referendum over the line early in his second term yet he remained in office for another 15 years. Hawke lost the referendum on the interchange of powers and four-year parliamentary terms in 1984 but won the election on the same day.

The voice falls into a different category. It exposed the fault line that has broken through in almost every Western democracy between the university elite, which controls most civic institutions, and the rest of Australia, which is trying to control their own lives free of incursions from the state.

Few, if any, elections today are determined by party loyalty or abstract notions such as left and right. They are fought between those who abide by institutional wisdom on matters such as gender, race and climate change and those who trust common sense.

The great tectonic shift has been changing the political landscape for more than 30 years.

John Howard’s landslide in 1996 was due in part to Liberal Party gains in Labor’s traditional heartland.

Labor, on the other hand, has turned previously marginal inner-city electorates such as Adelaide into safe seats.

Robert Menzies at the Melbourne Town Hall, 1951.

Peter Dutton is poised to make the largest assault on the Labor heartland since Tony Abbott in 2013, when the Liberals captured blue-collar seats such as Lowe.

In fact, Dutton may enjoy a clearer run than Abbott or Howard. Dutton’s courage in opposing the voice in the face of opposition within his own party put runs on the board in the parts of the country where the voice was regarded as a proxy for everything woke.

Crucially, outsiders now have the language to voice their common concerns and unite them in a common cause.

The word woke was unfamiliar to most Australians in 2022. Now it’s common currency and is used by the Opposition Leader almost daily.

Terms such as elite are understood more widely and precisely. The voice referendum made it clear to voters whether they were insiders or outsiders and which politicians were watching their backs.

The concept of the legacy media would have been unfamiliar to most people before Covid. Now it is recognised as a hostile force that conspires with the powerful to censor and lie.

Donald Trump’s election has changed things, too. His industrial slaughter of sacred cows in the US has put progressives on the defensive here too. Sooner or later, the dissonance between voting patterns at the referendum and federal elections will be resolved.

John Howard makes victory speech at Wentworth Hotel, Sydney, in 1996.

The Liberals will face an uphill battle to retain Bradfield, the only Coalition seat to vote in favour of the referendum.

Labor’s challenge is greater.

The disparity between the No vote and support for Albanese in 2022 is widest in the NSW seats of Hunter (ALP 54 per cent two-party preferred, No vote 70.9 per cent, a gap of 16.9) and Paterson (16.8), closely followed by Lyons in Tasmania (16.5) and Blair in Queensland (15.1).

The 25 Labor seats where the Yes vote was higher than the national average included ALP strongholds such as Gough Whitlam’s old seat of Werriwa, Shortland and McMahon, where the incumbent would retire if he felt the slightest degree of responsibility for atrocities such as the Hunter offshore wind project.

The seat where the Yes vote and Labor’s vote are most closely aligned is Grayndler (Yes 74.6 per cent, ALP 78.9 per cent), suggesting the Prime Minister will comfortably win his seat. Whether he retains his title is another matter.

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[SirRumpole]

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For 15 months the Prime Minister and a rag-tag bunch of finger-waggers hectored people who had watched as an assortment of jumped-up nobodies was given airtime to trash-talk their country. Two and a quarter centuries of Indigenous misfortune dumped on the heads of white people who could expect to pay reparations for untried crimes allegedly committed by their distant ancestors.​

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It mattered not if your ancestors were soldiers with the First Fleet or refugees escaping from communist Vietnam. Your right to be accorded the same respect as every other citizen was about to be annulled in the Constitution.​

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It may not be forgotten by the Opposition, but most voters have other things on their minds.

 

[JohnDe]

It may not be forgotten by the Opposition, but most voters have other things on their minds.

My customer base ranges from retirees to the semi retired, parents and their adult children still at home, young single workers and university students. Many of the older clientele have mentioned, since the referendum, that they are angry at what was attempted by the politicians with the Voice, and they are going to let them know at the next election.

Is it all talk or will they go ahead with their protest vote, we can only wait and see.

 

[JohnDe]

Time for historians to go back to the start and re-assess all the collected facts.

 

[Dona Ferentes]

I watched the Australian Story episode about Jacinta Nampijinpa Price on ABC.

I'm sure it's in View. .. well worth watching

 

[JohnDe]

 

[SirRumpole]

Yes, it's all getting a bit wearing.

One day we may acknowledge people's achievements instead of just their identity.

 

[JohnDe]

Yes, it's all getting a bit wearing.

One day we may acknowledge people's achievements instead of just their identity.

I've been attending events at the Adelaide Writers Weak and the Adelaide Fringe. Every single introduction and show include a welcome to country, and after hearing it several times a day it starts to really grate.

Last Saturday night at the Fringe, we went to a comedy show. Before the act started, they played a recorded welcome to country, first part in the aboriginal language and then in English. You could hear a pin drop at the end, it felt like everyone was trying their hardest to stop themselves screaming out FU#K OFF

It's gone too far.

Have your welcome to country at the beginning of the main event, but not for every single show or meeting. It is ridiculous. this is my country, I was born here, I am indigenous to Australia.