The future of energy generation and storage

[qldfrog]

Whatever people think , power plants are managed, by qualified operators, 24/7 and are in a relatively small amount .
Rooftop solars are by the millions, unmanaged, unmaintained, not even professionally setup ; faulty ones must remain faulty and undetected by the thousands for months if not year, and worsening with age
It is a given .
I do not want to raise that :
our nanny state option will be mandatory paying yearly check by specifically licenced inspector.
You know like pool fence inspections scam
We could add another 15k if not more BS jobs to parasite more money from that leach infected society

 

[Knobby22]

Whatever people think , power plants are managed, by qualified operators, 24/7 and are in a relatively small amount .
Rooftop solars are by the millions, unmanaged, unmaintained, not even professionally setup ; faulty ones must remain faulty and undetected by the thousands for months if not year, and worsening with age
It is a given .
I do not want to raise that :
our nanny state option will be mandatory paying yearly check by specifically licenced inspector.
You know like pool fence inspections scam
We could add another 15k if not more BS jobs to parasite more money from that leach infected society

They passed the pool inspector thing in Victoria 2 years ago. They warned us we would be fined. I got numerous warnings but just ignored them. Can't have been the only one as I didn't get fined and it's sort of gone away.

That is real nanny state stuff. Was going to fight it.

 

[qldfrog]

They passed the pool inspector thing in Victoria 2 years ago. They warned us we would be fined. I got numerous warnings but just ignored them. Can't have been the only one as I didn't get fined and it's sort of gone away.

That is real nanny state stuff. Was going to fight it.

We had it for years here.
Mandatory to sell property, even when said property had 70 acres and unfenced permanent creek, 5 dams with no kid in home
But more to subject, when i see how the average Joe maintains house stuff, it is scary to think the future of the grid depends on these rooftop systems..

 

[Knobby22]

We had it for years here.
Mandatory to sell property, even when said property had 70 acres and unfenced permanent creek, 5 dams with no kid in home
But more to subject, when i see how the average Joe maintains house stuff, it is scary to think the future of the grid depends on these rooftop systems..

It was/is to be yearly.
Electrical systems never get maintained. Rcds need to be checked.

 

[sptrawler]

I would have thought that domestic solar would not be able to feed a fault having no real capacity and would probably have the smarts to remove itself off-line for its own protection in that situation.
Probably depends on the quality of protection.

I wanted to up my system from 1.5kW to 5kW and the electrical authority requires me to install a 3kW export limiting device, which is a new thing I haven't heard of it being a requirement before.

 

[IFocus]

Thanks @Smurf1976 I could have asked @IFocus but I thought he knows SFA like me. Lol
Sorry IFocus, payback, that's all.

Last blackstart in WA from memory was from a turbine in Geraldton wasn’t Pinjar built after that also as blackstart units

 

[sptrawler]

W.A transitioning update

Soaring energy transition costs pushing state-owned Synergy to the brink

Western Australia's state-owned power provider is under such financial strain that the energy minister went to the government seeking a taxpayer-funded bailout valued at almost $1 billion.

www.abc.net.au

 

[sptrawler]

Last blackstart in WA from memory was from a turbine in Geraldton wasn’t Pinjar built after that also as blackstart units

The blackstart I was involved in was around 1992, both Muja to Perth 330kV lines tripped due to a bushfire, which caused Kwinana and Muja to trip, Kwinana could blackstart, Muja can't.

Kwinana used a 25MW gas turbine, power system used Kwinana to re establish the grid and get Muja back on, it is safer to use manned plant, when closing load onto a dead network.

I've been involved in black starts at several country towns, but with diesels and small distribution systems, it is a lot different to hitting a thermal unit with a high instantaneous loads and keeping it on.

Also if you trip it, you have to start all over again and if the unit temps aren't right, you may have to wait a long time to get going again.

I could send you a copy of the letter of commendation, I recieved from the Manager of Wester Power at the time, if you like. Lol

 

[qldfrog]

The blackstart I was involved in was around 1992, both Muja to Perth 330kV lines tripped due to a bushfire, which caused Kwinana and Muja to trip, Kwinana could blackstart, Muja can't.

Kwinana used a 25MW gas turbine, power system used Kwinana to re establish the grid and get Muja back on, it is safer to use manned plant, when closing load onto a dead network.

I've been involved in black starts at several country towns, but with diesels and small distribution systems, it is a lot different to hitting a thermal unit with a high instantaneous loads and keeping it on.

Also if you trip it, you have to start all over again and if the unit temps aren't right, you may have to wait a long time to get going again.

I could send you a copy of the letter of commendation, I recieved from the Manager of Wester Power at the time, if you like. Lol

Mr @sptrawler , you really should not mess with the experts
But knowing our fed policies are designed by these brain tanks, i feel much more confident and am already looking for finance to start an aluminium green processing plant/smelter in Victoria

 

[mullokintyre]

The blackstart I was involved in was around 1992, both Muja to Perth 330kV lines tripped due to a bushfire, which caused Kwinana and Muja to trip, Kwinana could blackstart, Muja can't.

Kwinana used a 25MW gas turbine, power system used Kwinana to re establish the grid and get Muja back on, it is safer to use manned plant, when closing load onto a dead network.

I've been involved in black starts at several country towns, but with diesels and small distribution systems, it is a lot different to hitting a thermal unit with a high instantaneous loads and keeping it on.

Also if you trip it, you have to start all over again and if the unit temps aren't right, you may have to wait a long time to get going again.

I could send you a copy of the letter of commendation, I recieved from the Manager of Wester Power at the time, if you like. Lol

At the very least you post a copy in the Useless and irrelevant thread, and then we can all admire it.
Mick

 

[sptrawler]

At the very least you post a copy in the Useless and irrelevant thread, and then we can all admire it.
Mick

Yes its worth the paper it is written on, it should have come perforated, for ease of use.Lol