US Election Thread

[basilio]

The Shovel sums up the US election .

“Duck It, Let’s Give Fascism a Go!” America Says​

Bored of all of the tedious democracy and due process, Americans have decided to buck around with a right-wing, self-obsessed authoritarian whose interests include inciting insurrections and quoting Adolf Hitler.

“Freedom of the press, freedom of expression – these things are great. But they’ve been around for ages, and they’re starting to get a little boring to be honest. So I think it’s time to give the guy who says he wants to be a dictator another turn. What’s the worst that could happen?” one American said.

Another said a change was as good as a holiday. “I’m not going to lie, it’s been fun getting to choose what to do with my own body these past years, but then you think, what if we were led by a man who wants to ban abortions and who has been described by his own generals as ‘fascist to his core’? That could be fun too!”

She said people were too worried about the consequences of fascism. “I mean apart from threatening to bomb Mexico, obstructing justice, peddling fake COVID cures, banning Muslims from entering the country, billing the Secret Service to stay at his own properties, practicing nepotism, threatening whistleblowers, facilitating the end of Roe v Wade, trying to change the result of an election and inciting an insurrection, he wasn’t that bad last time around.

“And this time he won’t have anyone around him to stop him, so it’ll be something different, that’s for sure. At least we’ll have something to talk about!”

 

[basilio]

This story has really surprised me. A Data scientist has been analysing the 2024 election results specifically in the swing states and believes there is something fishy about the voting. He believes there needs to be a hand recount at least a couple of states to check out a wildly anomalous number of votes where voters made only one vote on the Ballot - for Donald Trump. Every other down vote was empty.

How big was this anomaly ? 5-10 times larger than any previous time and surrounding states .

A data scientist, Stephen Spoonamore, strongly suspects a hack took place during the 2024 election. He speaks of tremendous numbers of “bullet votes” for Trump, occurring in just the swing states. A bullet vote is where there is only one selection in one race out of the entire ballot.

For example in Arizona and Nevada, 5% and 7% of the ballots were people who only voted for Trump.

He explains how easily it could occur particularly with the ability of Starlink, headed by Elon Musk. He also explains that a hand recount would clear this up.

Mr. Spoonamore is imploring Kamila Harris to request a HAND RECOUNT as only she can do. He states that a hand recount will determine the correct number of votes for the 2024 presidential election.

People interested in pushing for Harris to have a hand recount should contact SMARTELECTIONS.US



Stephen Spoonamore substack.com/@spoonamore

Stephen Spoonamore Twitter/Threads/BlueSky: @spoonamore SUBSCRIBE

Check out the video

 

[PZ99]

No recount for me. Trump won the election fair and square and unlike last time there will be a peaceful transfer of power. Can we just leave it at that ?

If election deniers want to post another 4 years of conspiracy crap then ASF isn't the place to do it.

 

[Macquack]

No recount for me. Trump won the election fair and square and unlike last time there will be a peaceful transfer of power. Can we just leave it at that ?

If election deniers want to post another 4 years of conspiracy crap then ASF isn't the place to do it.

DB008?

 

[PZ99]

Should be moderated and asked to either leave or to donate a dollar to ASF per post for wasting every ones' time. Another member was moderated sometime back - dutchie I think it was.

 

[qldfrog]

*Conspiracy* I'm wondering about Russia/Ukraine. There's too many commodities for US to ignore. US is billions deep to let Russia take it. It's just not feasible they would walk away.

I noticed the news that Russia was parading Trump’s wife's naked photos around. Also Russia struck Ukraine in a massive missile strike after Trump said something about stopping the war. Will he pitch for war if Putin doesn't listen.

Conspiracy is Trump will band the conservatives together for war. It could never be done under Biden or a mainstream pol.

And to approach the Democrats dream of WWIII before Trump gets in, blame Putin and the Chineses

Chinese vessel spotted where Baltic Sea cables were severed

A Chinese-registered vessel on its way from the Russian port of Ust-Luga to Port Said in Egypt, passed close to both the cables around the time each was cut.

www.afr.com

 

[IFocus]

The Ugly Origins of Trump’s “America First” Policy​

People’s choice of words can be revealing. That’s certainly the case with respect to one of Donald Trump’s favorite slogans, “America First.”

In April 2016, Trump initially used the term in a campaign speech, proclaiming that “America First” would be “the major and overriding theme of my administration.” The following year, in his inaugural address, he promised that “a new vision will govern our land. From this day forward, it’s going to be only America first―America first.” Subsequently, he has employed the slogan frequently to describe his approach to foreign and domestic policy.

This approach is remarkable because, over the past century, “America First” has acquired some very unsavory connotations.

The Ugly Origins of Trump’s “America First” Policy - FPIF

With this phrase, the former president is connecting himself to the Ku Klux Klan and outright fascist movements.

fpif.org

 

[wayneL]

The Ugly Origins of Trump’s “America First” Policy​

People’s choice of words can be revealing. That’s certainly the case with respect to one of Donald Trump’s favorite slogans, “America First.”

In April 2016, Trump initially used the term in a campaign speech, proclaiming that “America First” would be “the major and overriding theme of my administration.” The following year, in his inaugural address, he promised that “a new vision will govern our land. From this day forward, it’s going to be only America first―America first.” Subsequently, he has employed the slogan frequently to describe his approach to foreign and domestic policy.

This approach is remarkable because, over the past century, “America First” has acquired some very unsavory connotations.

The Ugly Origins of Trump’s “America First” Policy - FPIF

With this phrase, the former president is connecting himself to the Ku Klux Klan and outright fascist movements.

fpif.org

Yeah. America Last woulda been more suited to this lunatics politics. The left is ridiculous.

 

[moXJO]

And to approach the Democrats dream of WWIII before Trump gets in, blame Putin and the Chineses

Chinese vessel spotted where Baltic Sea cables were severed

A Chinese-registered vessel on its way from the Russian port of Ust-Luga to Port Said in Egypt, passed close to both the cables around the time each was cut.

www.afr.com

Makes you wonder.
Originally when the USSR broke up Ukraine was full of nukes. So a deal was struck that the US and Russia (I think, just going off memory) would defend Ukraine as long as they gave up the nukes.
But there's a damn lot of commodities on and under Ukraine.
It's obviously worth fighting along with infrastructure as blackrock and Goldman were quick to setup a reconstruction and investments bank

 

[mullokintyre]

Makes you wonder.
Originally when the USSR broke up Ukraine was full of nukes. So a deal was struck that the US and Russia (I think, just going off memory) would defend Ukraine as long as they gave up the nukes.
But there's a damn lot of commodities on and under Ukraine.
It's obviously worth fighting along with infrastructure as blackrock and Goldman were quick to setup a reconstruction and investments bank

There are a number of articles about the US and Russian deceit in "convincing" Ukraine to give up its Nuclear arms.
Here is one from the Neocons, National interest , published by the Centre for National Interest org that was founded by tricky Dicky Nixon, which gives an idea of where it is coming from.
Another from a more left wing source, New York Times
And heres one from public broadcasting , NPR .
The theme is the same to varying degrees.
Ukraine agreed to give upp its Nukes in return for guarantees from both the US and Russia about security.
Look where it got them.
Mick

 

[PZ99]

If Ukraine kept those nukes they would be far worse off today

 

[qldfrog]

There are a number of articles about the US and Russian deceit in "convincing" Ukraine to give up its Nuclear arms.
Here is one from the Neocons, National interest , published by the Centre for National Interest org that was founded by tricky Dicky Nixon, which gives an idea of where it is coming from.
Another from a more left wing source, New York Times
And heres one from public broadcasting , NPR .
The theme is the same to varying degrees.
Ukraine agreed to give upp its Nukes in return for guarantees from both the US and Russia about security.
Look where it got them.
Mick

Well the Ukrainian government rollover by the CIA and ensuing Biden family among others, involvment did change the game didn't it?
Sure it it just soviet propaganda...
The deep state could not do wo a war, china was too big, so even better a war paid by the EU and using US weapons, billions in the pocket, full scale training ground and bleeding nice white Christian blood using cyrillic on both sides, a dream for the US democrats and BLM clique
I do not see them giving that away

 

[moXJO]

Seems to be the same playbook.
Start or inflame a war.
Destroy everything.
Contract to fix everything.
Profit.

 

[qldfrog]

Seems to be the same playbook.
Start or inflame a war.
Destroy everything.
Contract to fix everything.
Profit.

Sadly so true...

 

[qldfrog]

Sadly so true...

My scare is imagine how much better it is if you vitrify half of Europe.
Giant Marshall plan, US economy booming for 20y trillions and trillions for the dark side,no US life lost and debt issue wioed up..
Trump hurry up...

 

[basilio]

No recount for me. Trump won the election fair and square and unlike last time there will be a peaceful transfer of power. Can we just leave it at that ?

If election deniers want to post another 4 years of conspiracy crap then ASF isn't the place to do it.

Steady on. I'm not on the election steal bandwagon. However the extreme anomaly picked up by this data scientist seems disturbing.

By the way a hand recount is just that. It's not making up a lot of BS stories and attempting to get courts to throw out a result. And the only time to do a recount is before final confirmation of results.

You don't even have to do a total recount. Pick out a sample of voting centers and see what comes up.

What Trump is planning to do on Jan 21st is country changing. Check out the video.

 

[wayneL]

Another post mortem on the Democrat loss. Cenk oscillates from entirely sensible to completely freaking insane (personal opinion), but it is an interesting discussion... Plenty of grist for the mill for TDS sufferers also.

 

[Knobby22]

There is a rumour going around that Gaetz is a , can't think of the term, sort of deliberate false pick and will be rejected to show the Senate is independent and also to make the other picks look good. He will then be given some sort of good job as a reward when rejected. It has been done before in USA history. He isn't well liked by the Republicans in the Senate.

To me, Gaetz is easily the worst pick. He has accused of some awful things. (Sex trafficking, underage girls, drugs etc.)
His resignation meant that the Republican ethics probe can't be published.

The others , though controversial, align with Trump's agenda.

Well, got it half right.
Gaetz is gone.

 

[The Triangle]

My scare is imagine how much better it is if you vitrify half of Europe.
Giant Marshall plan, US economy booming for 20y trillions and trillions for the dark side,no US life lost and debt issue wioed up..
Trump hurry up...

Don't forget...

It's Make America Great Again.... Not Make Australia Great Again.

I don't see how Australia comes out better in the end. Trade wars hurt resources and won't help the Aussie dollar.

The benefit is if the US does well and Aussies catch on and dump the Labor/liberal/teal/green alliance.

Well, got it half right.
Gaetz is gone.

Trump's plan all along. Brilliance. He got rid of a headache without looking like he did.

 

[qldfrog]

Don't forget...

It's Make America Great Again.... Not Make Australia Great Again.

I don't see how Australia comes out better in the end. Trade wars hurt resources and won't help the Aussie dollar.

The benefit is if the US does well and Aussies catch on and dump the Labor/liberal/teal/green alliance.

Trump's plan all along. Brilliance. He got rid of a headache without looking like he did.

While it may not look like it from my posts, i am keen for the US not to collapse, not in a blm, woke, overwhelmed by illegal migrants way at least to show us an alternate way and counter China ..a bit