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Japanese Whaling?

What is your view on Japanese whaling?

  • Whaling Sucks! I'm going to boycott Japanese products!

    Votes: 17 24.6%

  • Whaling Sucks!

    Votes: 43 62.3%

  • Kill the Whales!

    Votes: 7 10.1%

  • Indifferent ...

    Votes: 2 2.9%
  • Total voters
    69
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I think whaling sucks!
But no way will I boycott Japanese products. I love my Toyotas and Yamaha's.
To say that the Japanese are bad because of whaling is silly, whatever the reason they kill whales, it must be a good one. I just hope they can help conserve and help grow the whale population, to a point that there not on the ENDNGERED LIST. Actually till there the pest of the seas. Then they can eat all the whale they want.
 
Ageo said:
I understand they have explosive heads on the harpoons but i have noticed a few videos that the whale is still kicking. When im out hunting, any projectile i use is enough to make sure that it takes the beast down with 1 hit, be it rabbits or even water buffalo.
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A few videos or the same scene repeatedly shown. Thrashing around and bleeding does non necessarily mean not dead. Chop off a chickens head and it still runs around for a bit of time but it is very very dead. Most whales when shot will shudder rather than thrash around a lot as the bomb is usually near the spine. If the bomb doesn't detonate the whale will act differently.
When you are hunting you don't have greenpeace making it hard for you to get the best of shots so you could say when they are there the chance of a poor shot is greater. I've seen a lot of whales shot and can only remember one incidence where things went wrong and I felt sorry for the suffering of the whale. I spent a lot of time in an abbatoir and can recall quite a few times when an animal got up from the knocking box and ran amock.
 
nioka said:
I've been there. I've worked there. Have you? I know how it works.
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Come on man.. I havent worked there but there is no way in hell that those whales are dead.. you are kidding yourself!!!!!

That doesnt mean I am for or against it though; I really think that if Japanese want to eat whale they can however they should
a) Stick to their own waters
b) Really try to assist in growing the whale populations and put some money into .. like fishing companies are doing with Tuna..

Every country has there own customs likes and dislikes.. We in Australia eat Kangaroo meat how does this look to the world they are
a) A mammal (could be a marsupial) but still it suckles its young
b) Its our national animal
c) Real Aussies go out on the back of uts shooting them for fun

I am not into whaling personally and would prefer if people didnt do it but still they have there rights ..

People make such a big deal about whales and sheep in iraq.. no one gives a sh*t about genicide it africa and other third world countries, 1 in 2 aboriginal children are being raped etc.. I am sorry but get some priorities..!
 
--B-- said:
we were discussing the method of the slaughter which was raised as a primary concern in all this. i honestly dont see harpooning any differently to hooking. i really dont know how else the whalers are supposed to capture and kill a whale.
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in any case:

B killing whales in this day and age to me is insanity no matter what the method.

As for whales recovering in numbers that is also way off the mark. I get the feeling the pro whalers think that they will soon recover to some where near previous numbers.

In the days when Nokia was eating his whale meat the food source for whales was exponentially bigger than current stocks world wide which we will never see the like off again this is not scare mongering its fact. Whales will never recover to previous stock levels ever.
Ask Nokia what the fishing was like 30 / 40 years ago and what it’s like today whether fishing in close or out wide, extrapolate that through to whales and their food sources.

Practices of past centuries simply do not translate though I guess the question is why kill whales I am yet to hear a valid argument all the products taken from whales were produced by other means well before the 60’s?


Focus
 
--B-- said:
fully agree.



absolutely. green groups are 100% based on propagating fear and misinformation to push their agendas.
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B if this is what it takes then so be it the Japanese can hardly claim the high moral ground
 
adobee said:
People make such a big deal about whales and sheep in iraq.. no one gives a sh*t about genicide it africa and other third world countries, 1 in 2 aboriginal children are being raped etc.. I am sorry but get some priorities..!
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How can you expect people to give a flying Razoo about human rights when they couldnt even care less for defenceless creatures such as Whales ? :cautious: Least Humans can fight back !
 
Hi folks

Just a question .

Would people be as outraged about the taking of whales if they were done in a less barbaric looking way ? . The firing of a harpoon looks pretty gruesome but if a quicker way was found to kill them would we then rate them up against any other animal that we butcher for meat .



Cheers martin
 
IFocus said:
Whales will never recover to previous stock levels ever.
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Never is a very long time and I disagree, but if you mean as long as humans are around to pollute the planet, then yes, your statement is true.
Agree that things are very different now as opposed to 30-40 yrs ago. So much so, that even the mighty Great Barrier Reef is said to disappear in our life time :(
 
Anyone actually tried whale? It's pretty good, maybe try it first before accusing Japanese of exerting their right to live their culture in their way.
 
Pat said:
Never is a very long time and I disagree, but if you mean as long as humans are around to pollute the planet, then yes, your statement is true.
Agree that things are very different now as opposed to 30-40 yrs ago. So much so, that even the mighty Great Barrier Reef is said to disappear in our life time :(
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Yes Pat as long as humans are around, the growth in populations India / China (another 2 billion consumers, think USA only 250 million) that have aspirations to reach say our living standard will pretty much crush many eco systems.

Its unfortunate about the Barrier as it doesn't look good but there are much bigger environment issues coming.

Focus
 
vishalt said:
Anyone actually tried whale? It's pretty good, maybe try it first before accusing Japanese of exerting their right to live their culture in their way.
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Vishalt hunting whales in the Antarctica has nothing to do with Japanese culture but everything to do with Japanese technolgy

I find it offensive in my culture that they hunt whales......
 
justjohn said:
Jeez i bet the whales feel a lot safer after that statement:eek:
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I would estimate that they would feel much better knowing that the Japanese would be facing the Australian Navy rather than some of the waffle that is thrown about in discussions on whaling.

bearmarket
 
Whales are beautiful, they're intelligent, & generally placid creatures - great, ancient, mysterious - why would anyone want to hurt them? They're part of the ever dwindling giants of the earth. Heck, we never even get to see giant squids :p:

To compare them to western-cows is just silly as well, (as some do). Cows have been bread just for our purposes; when do you ever see wild cows/bulls resembling the ones you see at farms? :rolleyes:
 

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